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Vergere

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 SE_Vader_536
04-08-2003, 4:44 PM
#1
Who is she? yeah i could read all the books and figure it out myself but i dont wanna waste my time. I've seen her first in star by star and was puzzled by her. Yet later when i read cloak of deception she is also there. I am very confused as to who she is and some background would help me also.
 Shotokan
04-09-2003, 1:43 AM
#2
she is a female fosh an was apprenticed to thracia cho leem. uh she was sent to the world of zonama sekot to try to buy a ship there. the "far outsiders" a.k.a the yuuzhan vong, attacked zonama an vergere left with them so the vong wouldnt kill the planet. shes kinda like a bird.... das all i know... o an shes a member of the old jedi order an died, flying an a-wing into a false base where many yuuzhan vong were, an saved jacen solo. she even saved his life. she warned him to enclose some air around him as the vacuum of space will enter the base.
 SE_Vader_536
04-09-2003, 8:30 PM
#3
oh yes. i now remember! holy ****! i read rogue planet a month ago but i forgot vergeres name. so the yuzzen vong were the ones who attacked sekot? how come this happens 70-80 years earlier and yet she isnt mentioned again for a while? such an important fact.
 wassup
04-09-2003, 9:51 PM
#4
 SE_Vader_536
04-10-2003, 3:32 PM
#5
ooh... ahh...

interesting...
 Pnut_Man
04-10-2003, 4:35 PM
#6
Vergere is the most unique and interesting character of the EU!

*Thousands of various fruits start flying*
 darthfergie
04-10-2003, 6:29 PM
#7
was...:mad:
pathetic death BTW, pathetically sacrificial...didn't seem in theme with Vergere at ALL.
 SE_Vader_536
04-11-2003, 8:56 PM
#8
why not she was heroic and in turn happened to included sacrificing herself for the better.
 swphreak
04-11-2003, 10:13 PM
#9
I knew the moment I finished Rogue Planet that the invaders where the Vong (I read a few NJO books, and read Rogue Planet while waiting for the next NJO book).

Veregre certainly had some interesting concepts.
 darthfergie
04-11-2003, 11:19 PM
#10
Originally posted by SE_Vader_536
why not she was heroic and in turn happened to included sacrificing herself for the better.

That wasn't what Vergere valued though. Self sacrifice was insane by her morals. It just didn't seem in character at ALL.

my theory on it is that the writer (dunno who it was at the moment) couldn't continue developing Vergere like she needed to be. He basically said...well she doesn't fit into my plan very well and I do a horrible job writing stuff for her...why don't I just kill of this character since she is so hard for me to work with.

Vergere wasn't pulled off well at all in that book simply because the author didn't have the time or the talent to incorporate the needed character development...so what came out was just a half hearted version of the Vergere that came out during Traitor.

All in all I think Vergere had ALOT more potential, but I think that the writers just didnt want to use it to further their plot and just killed her off.
 Shotokan
04-12-2003, 3:34 PM
#11
if you've read destiny's way then you know why she sacrificed herself. she killed herself to save that "waste - o - skin" jacen... if jacen hadnt gone into ebaq 9 an tried to help jaina, vergere would still be alive
 darthfergie
04-12-2003, 9:08 PM
#12
Yes, I know. I read it the week it came out.

I still stand by my views. Killing her off was wasting a great character and doing it pathetically.
 boinga1
04-12-2003, 10:09 PM
#13
I hate vergere....she's too self-righteous and just plain old freaky for me :shudder:
 swphreak
04-13-2003, 1:14 AM
#14
Yea I agree. Veregre could have been soo much more, but I don't think the other authers could write her like Matthew Woodring Stover did and they got tired of trying so they just killed her off.....
 Jo
04-19-2003, 9:20 PM
#15
i too think that Vergere could have been more of a character. it would have been really cool if she had been like the one think that helped the Jedi overthrow the vong. like she would kill shimraa or something...know what i mean?
 wassup
04-20-2003, 12:34 AM
#16
Originally posted by Masterjo2588
i too think that Vergere could have been more of a character. it would have been really cool if she had been like the one think that helped the Jedi overthrow the vong. like she would kill shimraa or something...know what i mean?

An Old Republic Jedi Knight kill the ruler of the Yuzhann Vong? No...too easy. I wish she could have stayed longer and provided more info and experience to Luke and the new Jedi, and teach them some of the old ways and traditions of the old Jedi. :(
 Jo
04-20-2003, 10:23 AM
#17
i never said too easy, it would be an explosive duel, lightsaber and amphistaff..anyway, if she had tought the old ways then they would pretty much not be allowed to marry. and luke already knows a huge amount from the Holocrons. she might have also been able to show them exactly where Zonama Sekot is. just like Pnut said, she is the most interesting character out of the star wars EU. and i actually like the way she thinks of the force. with no dark or light side, that all of that is you and not the force
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