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yay and nay survey: TOR

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 Darth Avlectus
11-20-2010, 5:55 PM
#1
It's nearing the release (relatively) of the MMO. With (currently) only a few months left to go, I'm just getting a feel of us people here. There seems to be as many for SWTOR as against it, here on LF.

So a public poll, folks. Vote and cast your opinion.
 Hallucination
11-20-2010, 7:32 PM
#2
I'm a yay, because it kinda looks like it might have a bit of a chance to be sorta fun at times.

In before haters.
 Jae Onasi
11-20-2010, 8:28 PM
#3
Yes, no question.
 The Doctor
11-20-2010, 8:34 PM
#4
More "No" than you could possibly imagine.
 Endorenna
11-20-2010, 9:07 PM
#5
Looks awesome to me. :) I've been following it since it was first announced, and since I happen to like MMOs...yeah.
 JediExile
11-20-2010, 9:28 PM
#6
Ahhh...excited because it's a Star Wars game. But dislike because I don't like MMOs...and I wanted KotOR3. :P

I'm going to try it out, though.
 Darth Avlectus
11-20-2010, 11:28 PM
#7
Yes, no question.
Confusion milady?
 adamqd
11-21-2010, 6:02 AM
#8
Yay, the only negative feelings I have are the fact they won't be releasing a an SPRPG KotOR III, but that has nothing to do with the quality or Story of tOR, I think it'll be good.
 starkiller1157
11-21-2010, 9:46 AM
#9
Nay for me. It doesn't have a star wars look or feel for me. Looks like just some random space MMO that just happens to have lightsabers(which, no offense, but the lightsabers look lame. I like the TFU, JK:Academy, Kotor & RotS Video Game lightsabers better)
 Qui-Don Jorn
11-21-2010, 8:48 PM
#10
Definately. I don't have anything against MMO's and I never cared either way about getting a KotOR 3, and I think it looks good, (the lightsabers do look a kinda crappy, but thats not going to stop me from playing it, everything else looks good) And besides, it'll sorta be like a KotOR 3 except on a WAY bigger scale.
 Zerimar Nyliram
11-22-2010, 9:37 AM
#11
I'd say mostly "Yes."

Also, it's yea, not yay.
 Ztalker
11-22-2010, 11:40 AM
#12
A full 'yes.'

It's Bioware making a Star Wars game. Not Lucasarts making a Star Wars game. So it'll be good.
 Prime
11-22-2010, 2:39 PM
#13
Mostly "yay". But a lot will depend on how the story and solo elements are realized.
 JediAthos
11-22-2010, 3:28 PM
#14
I would say yes...there are some things that I don't care for, but for the most part I'm looking forward to it and will play it.
 Fallen Guardian
11-22-2010, 6:34 PM
#15
Nay. The problem being that everything looks like it is from Episodes 4,5, and 6. The Republic troops look like clones. The Sith look like Imperials. In the Hope trailer the main soldier also bore too much resemblance to Jango Fett. It seems they took a rich unexplored environment of the Star Wars universe and filled it with Episode 4,5, and 6 looking characters.
 Ctrl Alt Del
11-22-2010, 9:31 PM
#16
Unsure, pending to nay. I love the fact that KotOR franchise has not been forgotten but I despise that KotOR 3 was relinquished. That and I dislike MMOs so, given the opportunity, I might play it but I have my doubts it'll be anywhere as enjoyable as the first two games.
 truJedi
11-22-2010, 10:14 PM
#17
nay....make me vomit ...MMO'S bblllleeeuurrhhhggg!!!
 Darth Avlectus
11-23-2010, 1:33 AM
#18
@ fallen guardian: you forgot the PT as well. :p

I fit in either unsure or changed my mind since I used to be totally 100% nay. Just in general because I don't much know or care about mmo games. We'll just have to see if the distaste of unoriginality is enough to keep me completely away. I'm curious enough to maybe try it out but have serious doubts about it all the same.
 Ztalker
11-24-2010, 7:58 AM
#19
nay....make me vomit ...MMO'S bblllleeeuurrhhhggg!!!

Care to elaborate?

I've seen similar things in threads regarding WoW here. I honestly believe most people 'hate' mmo's because a monthly fee is required to play.
However, if you play RPG's or Shooter, you'd probably buy a new game every month or two, money that is no put into a game you'll constantly play.

It's like buying a small, cheap little house from your own money every year or five or normal family home (for 20 years) which requires you to take a mortgage. One is not necessarily better then the other.

I'm a student and don't have much money to spend, but I beta-tested WoW and then and there concluded it was a good game but I lacked the finances to play it. Now that I do, I play it.
The montly fee doesn't make it bad.

The C.E.O. of Activision is thinking about asking fees for playing COD in multiplayer. One of the loading messages is "Free online play included with every black ops game."
 truJedi
11-24-2010, 4:18 PM
#20
@ Ztalker ^^

just a personall preferance i guess, i dont like the MMO style of gameplay,
Does not appeal to me one bit. It may be a great game storywise and whatever ,
but because its an MMO style of game...it does most deffinetly not tickle my fancy lol
And because it happened to probly the greatest star wars series ever made ( my beloved kotor....sigh...) lol yeh its makes me phisically ill and causes aggressive vomiting and in some casses ...sneezing?? lol so there is my elaboration :D
 Tommycat
11-25-2010, 2:34 PM
#21
Absolutely YES. If I can't have KotOR III then I'll take TOR. I see a break from much of the MMO mold. There's far more emphasis on story than other MMO's(not saying that others don't HAVE story, just that it's not their focal point). Your "pets" can do things for you that you don't want to do(diplomacy missions, crafting, salvaging). You can actually LOSE your "pets" with decisions you make. Yet it still keeps some elements that I enjoy as an MMO player. MASSIVE landscape. Loads of content. Cooperative play.

Most people who dislike MMO's do so on principle alone(please note that I did say most). They dislike the monthly fee. They dislike playing with other players(sure there are morons who grief, but there's a lot more really good players out there who will help you for no other reason than they WANT to help). They hear horror stories and think that's the norm. And you know some have tried ONE MMO(like WoW) and thought.. I don't like this one, so I won't like any of them. It's like playing one computer game and deciding that all games are like sim city and because you didn't like that you won't like any others.
just a personall preferance i guess, i dont like the MMO style of gameplay,
Does not appeal to me one bit.
Describe the style of gameplay YOU associate with MMO's.
 truJedi
11-25-2010, 4:16 PM
#22
ummmmmm.....MMO style of gameplay ?? ...
 Ctrl Alt Del
11-25-2010, 4:40 PM
#23
Describe the style of gameplay YOU associate with MMO's.
To be fair, TOR seems to have typical 1-0 gameplay with a fancy cover system.
 Titanius Anglesmith
11-25-2010, 5:01 PM
#24
Would I prefer a single player RPG? Absolutely yes.

Am I still excited about this game? Well... mostly yes.
 Q
11-27-2010, 8:13 PM
#25
I hope it fails miserably.
 Jamps
11-28-2010, 12:22 PM
#26
I'm pretty disappointed that they decided to go the MMO route on the series... especially 300-some years after the events of KOTOR. If it were set immediately after TSL, I may have considered buying it, but I really wish it was another single-player RPG.

I kinda hope it crashes and burns and they make the sequel everyone has been waiting for.
 Ctrl Alt Del
11-28-2010, 12:54 PM
#27
I hope it fails miserably.
Part of my persona secretly hopes that that happens. If I can't have my cookie the way I want it, then no one's having it either.
 Darth InSidious
11-28-2010, 12:58 PM
#28
Nay.
 Sabretooth
11-28-2010, 1:19 PM
#29
 mstr kenobi
11-28-2010, 11:25 PM
#30
I was nay, then undecided (that, well it could be good thought), and then firmly back in the nay camp and i hope it fails in craptacular way, lucasarts always deserves a good fail.

Yeah i'm a hater and i'm hating lol
 Qui-Don Jorn
12-01-2010, 4:41 PM
#31
Wow. Hoping it fails....I can't even fathom that.
i'm just going to enjoy it and let the haters miss out.
 igyman
12-06-2010, 10:41 AM
#32
I'm in the "No" crowd. The reasons:
1) It doesn't really look like the "Old" Republic with those ship, Jedi and trooper designs.
2) It's an MMO, which is just not my cup of tea when it comes to video game genres for many reasons I don't care to repeat.

Still, I hope those who do decide to play it will have a good time. As for me, I'll stick to single player RPGs (and other genres) which don't require monthly subscriptions in order to play. :)
 Astor
12-06-2010, 11:03 AM
#33
I started off firmly in the 'nay' camp, then moved to the 'surely it can't be that bad' camp, then the 'yay' camp, and now I don't know where I am.

I'll definitely be making use of the free trial period, at least.

I don't like how they've gone from the 'we took inspiration from the films' position, as they had with KOTOR, to this position of 'We've just taken everything from the films and changed it slightly', but if it plays well enough I might be convinced to give it longer than the trial.

But it's a rather colossal 'might'.
 mimartin
12-06-2010, 1:45 PM
#34
I saw Bar, so that is how I voted.

I'll possibly try and I’m pretty sure it will exceed my expectations since I have none.
 Char Ell
12-06-2010, 11:38 PM
#35
Yay by default though I voted unsure since I have no MMORPG experience. LucasArts has no other games I'm interested in and as far as I can tell it's not likely that LucasArts will publish a Star Wars game I'm interested in playing in the near future. Thus TOR will be the only way for me to get a fresh Star Wars gaming fix cuz replaying KotOR and TSL only makes me wish for KotOR 3 and after 3+ years of that torture I'm through. Through I say!!!
 danitiwa
12-11-2010, 5:53 PM
#36
I'd much rather like kotor3, so no. I'll give it a chance if people who've played it think it's outstandingly amazing, but if it's as unentertaining as Star Wars Galaxies I'm probably not buying it.
 Darth Avlectus
12-11-2010, 11:58 PM
#37
^^^Welcome newcomer. :D
 purifier
12-12-2010, 1:39 AM
#38
I'm just trying find this "Yoda's Dead Raccoons Roadkill Bar'n'Grill." :raise:



Okay, okay....I voted "unsure"
Don't know whether to yea it or nay it.


But seriously...where's the Bar'n'Grill?
 Tommycat
12-14-2010, 12:54 PM
#39
ummmmmm.....MMO style of gameplay ?? ...

Define the MMO style of gameplay. There are several different variations.
 Raven 16
12-17-2010, 3:13 PM
#40
NO! rather have kotor 3 for 360 or pc! :evil
 SoYa
12-24-2010, 1:00 AM
#41
I like it for a few key reasons.
a) Playing with friends: I have a good group of 3 friends who I know for sure will get this, and I know at least two will play it all the time with me. And I have 3-4 other friends who might get it.
b) Bioware: Everything they touch is gold. I will trust whatever they do. I wasn't going to get Dragon Age before. Now I've learned my lesson.
c) It's not just any MMO: From what I have either seen or heard, this seems like it is much better than any MMO. I have always hated MMO's because of a lack of story. I had loved the other parts about it (player vs player, merchanting, crafting, playing with people, clans), but without a decent story mode those games all seem empty. This game is almost guarenteed to have a good story (decent at worst). And the added elements will hopefully increase it's long term appeal.

I understand the other side of the argument, but the key point here is letter b. It won't fail us...

@Ztalker - Your Activision comment can be misinterpreted. EA has already done that with madden. If you get a new copy you do not have to pay for the online. It is a code that allows you to access the online features. If you buy a used copy you will not recieve this code. Instead you have to purchase it from the marketplace or store for around ten extra dollars. It isn't a monthly fee though. Activision would have done the same thing. It wouldn't effect me since I got the game at the midnight release, but the reason I have a problem with it because it then gets more people to buy used copies which gives even more money to the producers, and less money to the distibuters. And there is already a large margin. Rightfully earned, but it should not be taken advantage of like that.
 Emalin
01-01-2011, 10:01 AM
#42
Voted "unsure" because:

(1) Like the above poster said, everything Bioware touches is gold.
(2) However, I'm desperately disappointed that there will not be a third SPRPG continuing the Revan/Exile storyline. I'm also disappointed that they seemed to have made the "True Sith" into just another bunch of your typical Sithy bad guys. KOTOR2 led me to believe the True Sith were something... different...
(3) And lastly, I can't afford a monthly subscription. :p

Maybe the MMO will turn out to be good, and if it does, great. Still, I don't think I'm gonna get over being denied KOTOR3 anytime soon! *sigh*
 Darth Avlectus
01-03-2011, 12:00 AM
#43
^^^Look it's another 06'er. :p
 Darth333
01-06-2011, 9:58 PM
#44
Not at all. When someone first told me it would be an MMO about five years ago, I was hoping I had heard wrong...but no...

Sorry MMOs are just not my cup of tea. I play games very irregularly and when I do, I often don't have internet access or very limited access so it's just not worth it (and I have no interest in spending time playing MMOs either).
 internalgrenade
01-08-2011, 9:21 AM
#45
i went from liking it to not. it has nothing to do with the original series except the name. so i still think they should come out with a kotor 3. and if they don't i will invest all my assets when i am 18 to make a kotor 3
 internalgrenade
01-08-2011, 9:25 AM
#46
Darth333:
Prouver qu'ils ont tort. Que tous les Etoiles être le vôtre.
 Darth Avlectus
01-08-2011, 6:48 PM
#47
Not at all. When someone first told me it would be an MMO about five years ago, I was hoping I had heard wrong...but no...

Sorry MMOs are just not my cup of tea. I play games very irregularly and when I do, I often don't have internet access or very limited access so it's just not worth it (and I have no interest in spending time playing MMOs either).

I was worried you were shutting this thread down--not sure why you gave me that vibe.

Yeah, the irregular playing is starting to become my life as well. Can't keep up with it, speaking for myself personally.

Trying not to knock it before I try it, and I want to try it out, but it just doesn't seem like it would work for me.
 harark1
01-09-2011, 6:12 PM
#48
Nay. The problem being that everything looks like it is from Episodes 4,5, and 6. The Republic troops look like clones. The Sith look like Imperials. In the Hope trailer the main soldier also bore too much resemblance to Jango Fett. It seems they took a rich unexplored environment of the Star Wars universe and filled it with Episode 4,5, and 6 looking characters.

FYI The sith are imps. This is the begining of the empire. For me I say YAY!!!!!!!!! It looks awesome.:thmbup1::thmbup1::thmbup1:
 Isaac Clarke
01-17-2011, 10:49 AM
#49
I voted unsure, because it looks WAYYYY too much like the movies, the lightsabers don't look like lightsabers, and I think that the lightsaber hilts look WAY too thick.(plus, I secretly hope it fails miserably so we can get K3.) On the other hand, I think this will be marginally good.
 Tommycat
01-17-2011, 11:24 AM
#50
You do realize that if it does fail miserably, it will seal the fate of K3 as well, as the marketing guys would simply say that there isn't enough interest in the KotOR series to justify making another game. There MIGHT be a K3 if people play it and leave after completing the main campaign(s). Though admittedly, TOR means there most likely will not ever be a KotOR 3. But those wanting to play it without a monthly fee, have hope. There might be an emulator that comes out a couple years after the official game does.
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