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Who will win Decision '08?

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 Ghost Down
06-10-2008, 12:24 PM
#51
Well spoken, The Source!

I feel pretty much the same way as you about it, but I'm not allowed to talk about US politics because I'm Dutchy :xp:
 Achilles
06-10-2008, 12:30 PM
#52
He has to veto the beer so that he has enough bottled hot water for the dehydrated babies.

I hate to sound crass, but what happens to the election if some mental health related tragedy befalls McCain after the convention?
 The Source
06-10-2008, 1:01 PM
#53
I hate to sound crass, but what happens to the election if some mental health related tragedy befalls McCain after the convention? If a president becomes incompasitated (sp?), the Vice President becomes President and The Head of the House of Representitives or Senate becomes Vice Predident.
Well spoken, The Source!
I feel pretty much the same way as you about it, but I'm not allowed to talk about US politics because I'm Dutchy :xp:
You people own almost everything in the world. Hehehe...
 EnderWiggin
06-10-2008, 1:20 PM
#54
If a president becomes incompasitated (sp?), the Vice President becomes President and The Head of the House of Representitives or Senate becomes Vice Predident.


This doesn't answer the question he asked.

He asked what would happen to the election if McCain falls ill after the convention.

Nowhere did he make any mention of a president - I'm sure he knew what would happen if a president can no longer serve.

_EW_
 MdKnightR
06-10-2008, 1:40 PM
#55
He has to veto the beer so that he has enough bottled hot water for the dehydrated babies.

I hate to sound crass, but what happens to the election if some mental health related tragedy befalls McCain after the convention?

Perhaps the nomination will go to the only other person who stayed in the race that long....hint, hint. ;)
 EnderWiggin
06-10-2008, 1:51 PM
#56
Perhaps the nomination will go to the only other person who stayed in the race that long....hint, hint. ;)

HRC?

Barack v Hillary round 2. :xp:

_EW_
 MdKnightR
06-10-2008, 2:26 PM
#57
HRC?

Barack v Hillary round 2. :xp:

_EW_

He said...what happens to the election if some mental health related tragedy befalls McCain after the convention?

Who else is running for president on the Republican side? I'll give you 3 guesses, but you'll only need one. :D
 EnderWiggin
06-10-2008, 2:39 PM
#58
He said...

Who else is running for president on the Republican side? I'll give you 3 guesses, but you'll only need one. :D

:lol:

I was just trying to rattle your chain. I knew full well who you were referring to. :D


_EW_
 Achilles
06-10-2008, 4:10 PM
#59
He asked what would happen to the election if McCain falls ill after the convention. Quite right :)

Nowhere did he make any mention of a president - I'm sure he knew what would happen if a president can no longer serve. We surrender to Canada, right? :xp:
 EnderWiggin
06-10-2008, 4:11 PM
#60
We surrender to Canada, right? :xp:

What else can we do? :D

Luckily the mounties will help us, eh?

_EW_

No offense intended. :xp:
 Litofsky
06-10-2008, 4:16 PM
#61
We surrender to Canada, right? :xp:

What else can we do? :D

Run to some remote, desolate location? (http://spp.gov/) :p
 Achilles
06-10-2008, 4:25 PM
#62
Run to some remote, desolate location? (http://spp.gov/) :pThat website should have New World Order by Ministry playing as a midi in the background. That would be awesome!
 Litofsky
06-10-2008, 4:28 PM
#63
That website should have New World Order by Ministry playing as a midi in the background. That would be awesome!

That would surely be interesting. I wonder how that would sit well with "Pappa Bush," though. :p
 Bimmerman
06-10-2008, 8:04 PM
#64
Definitely Obama. Clinton's out, thankfully, McCain is just another duplicate of the past horrendous 8 years, and Ron Paul is for all intents not going to get the nomination or any number of meaningful votes. So I'm rooting for Obama.
 Darth InSidious
06-10-2008, 8:31 PM
#65
We surrender to Canada, right? :xp:

The interesting thing is, up until the 1930s, IIRC, there was a plan in place to invade the US from Canada...
 Litofsky
06-10-2008, 9:06 PM
#66
The interesting thing is, up until the 1930s, IIRC, there was a plan in place to invade the US from Canada...

By which Nation? Is this a plan from World War II, or independent of the Axis?
 Achilles
06-11-2008, 1:10 AM
#67
The interesting thing is, up until the 1930s, IIRC, there was a plan in place to invade the US from Canada...I thought it was more recent than that, but you could be right. I guess if you have a plan on file to invade anyone, it saves you the trouble of having to throw something together last minute.

God bless America.
By which Nation? Is this a plan from World War II, or independent of the Axis? By us. I can't remember which documentary I saw it discussed in, so I can't source this but the story is that the U.S. had invasion scenarios on file for every country in the world (even allies).
 Web Rider
06-11-2008, 2:31 AM
#68
you know, I have to say, looking back, I didn't answer the question honestly.

HONESTLY: I don't think Obama will win. Not because the nation is racist, not because we're not ready for a black president, but simply, between McCain and Obama, who are the only two candidates that will get any number of votes to bring them close to being elected, McCain is more qualified.

I also think the Republican party will simply stifle it's dissent and vote for him. The democrats on the other hand will bicker and complain over Hillary not being the candidate or possibly the VP, and either not vote, Vote for McCain, or vote for some independant, AS USUAL.

So yeah, I think McCain will win.
 Achilles
06-11-2008, 3:17 AM
#69
If McCain wants to win it, then he ought to either stop making stop making stupid mistakes like these (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfealLrWLIY) or find something other than Foreign Policy for his key campaign issue.

42% (http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm) of Americans are saying that the economy is the top priority to them. Considering that McCain has not once but several times stated that economics is not his strong point, and went so far as to propose a ridiculous gas-tax holiday to just to prove his point, I think I'll refrain from sharing your optimism for the Republican.
 Totenkopf
06-11-2008, 3:38 AM
#70
By which Nation? Is this a plan from World War II, or independent of the Axis?

Actually, I recall reading somewhere that the US had plans on file for fighting England, Canada, Japan and a whole host of others (not simultaneously). I think it was in the interwar (WW1/WW2) era or earlier. But hell, that's what those guys get paid to do during "peacetime". Still, no plan survives contact with the enemy, military or economic (look at all those failed 5 yr plans). Did a google search for plans to attack US through Canada and after 140 selections (stopped at that point), found a reference in following article:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red)

I'm hoping that the next administration is merely a caretaker one. Doubt that either Obama or McCain would make good presidents (thus great is out of the question). McCain is a weak rep/lame dem and Obama is a socialist/commie in orientation. Both are probably also globalists. The only salvageable grace to a McCain term would be his possible picks for the judicial branch (SC and lesser ones).....assuming he's not pulling a bait and switch play there.

RE McCain and beer..........probably a freudian slip. Campaigns are enough to drive the voter to drink, the candidates as well. :)
 EnderWiggin
06-11-2008, 6:27 AM
#71
HONESTLY: I don't think Obama will win. Not because the nation is racist, not because we're not ready for a black president, but simply, between McCain and Obama, who are the only two candidates that will get any number of votes to bring them close to being elected, McCain is more qualified.


Overall, or on specific points? I agree with Achilles; what about the economy?

I also think the Republican party will simply stifle it's dissent and vote for him. The democrats on the other hand will bicker and complain over Hillary not being the candidate or possibly the VP, and either not vote, Vote for McCain, or vote for some independant, AS USUAL.


Hmmm, that's some interesting language. To say that the democrats will "bicker" and vote Republican "as usual" is an interesting generalization.

_EW_
 Darth InSidious
06-11-2008, 8:05 AM
#72
By us. I can't remember which documentary I saw it discussed in, so I can't source this but the story is that the U.S. had invasion scenarios on file for every country in the world (even allies).

Actually, I think we had one to invade you via Canada as well, although I may be getting fuddled with age and mixing myself up over Defence Scheme No. 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1)
 Litofsky
06-11-2008, 10:27 AM
#73
I have a feeling that, before the Summer is up, this race is going to get very ugly. Television advertisements will be smearing each candidate, and saying, "Vote for me, because I'm on T.V.!" And, sadly, people will. It's all about exposure, isn't it?

As for McCain's slip-ups on the campaign, I understand if he makes a mistake every once in a while, but calling Putin the President (or did he say Prime Minister...) of Germany is just plain scary. Those running for Presidents should have the names of other major country's leaders down cold. Him stating that the economy is not his strong point is just annoying. Most Americans (according to Achilles' poll) are concerned with our economy, and the Republican candidate says it's not his strong point? That's infuriating!

Anyways, I've stated that, if Obama chooses Hillary as his Vice-President, he'll be at an advantage. The Democrats will be united on this issue, and will be able to throw their full force behind the Campaign. Of course, if I had control of the Democratic Party, I'd make it so that the candidates with the two highest delegate counts would become the nominees for President and Vice-President, respectively.
 Web Rider
06-11-2008, 10:53 AM
#74
Overall, or on specific points? I agree with Achilles; what about the economy?
I don't necessarily think his views make him more qualified, but just his worldly experiance will put him one step ahead. I do agree he's made some pretty stupid policy statements so far...like not supporting the GI Bill...


Hmmm, that's some interesting language. To say that the democrats will "bicker" and vote Republican "as usual" is an interesting generalization.

_EW_

bicker yes, but "as usual" was seperated from what they would do, meaning they won't ONLY vote republican to protest, they'll vote independant, green, or not at all. Something other than Democrat which while not giving McCain votes leaves less for the Democrats.
 Arcesious
06-11-2008, 12:25 PM
#75
It's going to be a close race. (More like Indecision 2008... >_>)
 EnderWiggin
06-11-2008, 12:34 PM
#76
It's going to be a close race. (More like Indecision 2008... >_>)

Wow. It's not like you got that from The Daily Show or anything :xp:

_EW_
 Arcesious
06-11-2008, 4:07 PM
#77
Actually, I did... :xp:

I just decided that I wouldn't mention that since comedy media shows aren't a good source for an argument, and I wasn't make an debating point...
 KinchyB
06-11-2008, 4:46 PM
#78
An interesting link (http://electoralmap.net/index.php)

The data for this map comes from the Intrade prediction market where there are real-money contracts for each individual state based on how it will award its 2008 electoral votes.

So basically trying to determine who's going to win what state by how people are betting. Vegas has to be loving this contest... :xp:
 Achilles
06-11-2008, 5:25 PM
#79
I'll see your InTrade and raise you a RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/). :D

FWIW, I think McCain last best chances are all behind him. It's only going to get worse for him from here on out.
 Totenkopf
06-11-2008, 5:46 PM
#80
No doubt. Even if he could manage to avoid any more stupid flubs.....the main stream media have drunk the Obama Kool-Aid and are in the Halleluja chorus for BO. Sadly, the "mainstream" media in this country is far from objective. Obama is their horse in this race and I expect them to act accordingly.
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