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[tsl] KOTOR: Revenge of Revan

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 logan23
03-25-2008, 9:43 PM
#51
Darth_Raptura, I understand your feeling on the project....many times people jump into projects with these cool ideas which the game can not perform just due to the engine and structure. That is one of the hardest things to do, let cool ideas go…..


I have written the plot/story so that it fits with the game's structure. I can say you will see some cool things but the one thing that I want all of you to take away from this.....is the Story Telling......The Story is what will make this Game, just as it did with the other Kotors.

As for the topic of the characters from kotor1……Let me start by saying in order for me to write this story/game I had to first write what happen to Revan, Bastilia, Carth, Exile, Mandalore, …… and the many other characters. I believe that everything should have a reason for being there. The content is defined by the plot. There will be a theme in the game....

If you are wondering…..I will tell you in the game why Revan left so suddenly in Kotor1.

There are chances you might see a few cameos ….after all Corellia was an early trading partner of the Wookiees when Kashyyyk entered the Republic (c. 3,956 BBY)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Corellia)

Sithspecter, I would be honored to have you work on the project. Sleheyron looks amazing!

If anyone is interested in joining the project, feel free to PM me on what your skills are.
MORE TO COME........

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Master_Crush
03-25-2008, 10:37 PM
#52
This sounds like a full blown game to me!

That is impossible! Unless you have an entire team of artists, programmers, ect!

But you could make it out of tings from the other 2 games, like for corusaunt, you could use Nar Shaddaa. Or that mod on KOTOR.filefront.com

But even then. This would be a big mod.

But all things aside, I would love to help, if you can prove its possible.
 Sithspecter
03-25-2008, 10:39 PM
#53
Sithspecter, I would be honored to have you work on the project. Sleheyron looks amazing!


Hey, I'd be glad to help! But, remember, it'll be later this year or next year before I can help. Are you guys using the Coruscant modules from K2, or reskinning, or making new ones?
 Master_Crush
03-25-2008, 11:10 PM
#54
Once my own project is complete (My recruition mod), I will let you use my character Master Crush, as I think he may be a good character for this mod.

He is an exiled Jedi living on his home planet of Onderon. From there he met the Exile and trained him in the ways of the force, and traveled with him even to Malachor V. But once there, he was left for dead, after the Exile went to find Revan.

But he was lucky enough to find a downed republic fighter with only minor damage. He repaired it, and left Malachor just before its destruction.

Since that day he has hunted for the Exile! To find out why he left him there. (TO BE CONTINUED!)

He could meet your character 10 years later, and replace his old master?

What do you think?
 Paddythegreat
03-26-2008, 11:50 AM
#55
Ambitious but ill definately be keepin an eye on this one.
 Construct
03-26-2008, 11:59 AM
#56
Hey, Logan, this is really great! I think it'd be spectacular for SS to join this when he's done with Sleheyron, if you're still working on this. Heh, the newer guys are getting over here to quickly...

Heh.
 Doc Valentine
03-26-2008, 12:18 PM
#57
Logan, I absolutely love the story so far! The Vogga storyline is very interesting. Be sure that when you release this I will be among the herds scrambling to download it :).
 memarik
03-26-2008, 1:39 PM
#58
well its seems like exelent news!! :D

will there be eny pics or consept art of Nindo the durosian..?
 BigMike322
03-26-2008, 1:52 PM
#59
Kick ass. This is my most anticipated mod mod that I want to play. TSL restoration will be awesome, don't get me wrong. But I think we found a new champ.
 memarik
03-26-2008, 1:54 PM
#60
yep i agree :D

hey i would love to join the team but my skills are more of an idealist :D
i dont know enything about modding or scripting/dialogs but i might help..
i could do some voice acting or give some ideas or oppinions :D

so Logan if theres a free space tell me ! !
 logan23
03-27-2008, 8:12 PM
#61
Hey Everyone!

I want to say that Sithspecter and I talked....and when he is done with his Mod...there will be a place for him here on the team. I'm looking forward to working with him in the future.

Memarik, I’m still trying to workout the look I want for Nindo...I’m playing with a few ideas as for head gear.....But I can tell you that he has a kind of dark humor which will make some wonder is he joking or being serious. Nindo will love creating weapons and gadgets. Think of him as the polar opposite of Bao Dur. Bao Dur wants to make shields and help.......Nindo is more about explosions and blasters but both are great techs.

Memarik, I will PM you and we can talk about you joining the team.

If anyone else is interested in joining the project, just PM and we will see what is the best position for you.

The past two nights I have been story boarding the movies and the in-game cut scenes. Yes..movies…..I plan to use certain kotor2 movies in the Mod…so you will see the ship fly to the new worlds. I want to capture the movie feel to the game. This brings me to the next issue and topic…..new movies. I plan to have few new movies in the Mod. I will be sitting down with my friend who creates/edits videos.
The new movies will not go into production for awhile….final story boards have to be finished and I have to work on how it can be done.

If anyone has any experience in this area….PM me…I’m looking for info right now, later I will open…it up for people to create 3D models for the scenes. I will not say how many new movies I will have but there will be at least 2 new ones.

Thanks for all the support :)

MORE TO COME.........

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Sithspecter
03-27-2008, 9:21 PM
#62
Sounds good, Logan! I'll go check out the site now (I didn't before cause I'm a busy guy)!
 logan23
03-27-2008, 11:00 PM
#63
sithspecter, thanks!
Let me know what you think....

Here are some quotes from your party members in the Mod.......

Kaila Saris
Republic fighters attacking your ship
“He you(PC), get on the guns and use that force thing you got and shot some of those dam fighters down,…… unless you want to float your way home.”

Kaila Saris
Vogga Hutts Ship (Cantina--She bumps into a fellow swoop racer)
“I didn’t cheat in that swoop race! (Lie).... It’s not my fault you can’t handle your hardware ….maybe that Twi'lek dancer can help you, as Kaila has a drink. (Bar fight!!)

Nindo Bahr
Smuggling weapons explained to PC
“Yes, this deal will give arms to the Hutts to control the weak but think of the access to the guns.....They never notice a gun here or there missing a part. I made some of my best weapons from weapons like this. The G1-79 is great to use since the Republic can’t see it on their scanning devices.”

MORE TO COME.........

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 ForeverNight
04-01-2008, 5:32 PM
#64
Just my two cents here... I just had a thought for how you could do some of the movies...

Have you (Or anybody else on the team) ever played Homeworld? It was an RTS released... oh 9 or so years ago (Is is really that long ago?) And one of the things it had for the movies was all hand drawn stuff.

Yeah, it is kinda ambitious, but I thought that if anybody on your team can draw with any skill whatsoever and be able to do what you (Or whomever) want on paper, than it might be an easier alternative than trying to do it through TSL or what ever Obidison/Bioware used to do their movies.

P.S. Anybody have any idea on how to spell Obidison?
 Sithspecter
04-01-2008, 5:59 PM
#65
We can make the movies with 3ds max. It's not hard, and we can just import the Ebon Hawk and such from the game. Drawing them all out would take an insane amount of time. At 60 frames per second, you'd have to do 3600 drawings for 1 min!

It's Obsidian, I believe...
 logan23
04-01-2008, 11:56 PM
#66
Hey everyone!

sithspecter, thanks for the info!
I'm already creating the story boards for the new movies. I have right now 3 new movies needed.

Map/Planet Layout is 100 percent done.
I'm now in the process of writing small dialogues for non important NPCs…..which is 20 percent done.

I have made my list of re-skinned non important characters.
I’m still working on the party member’s skins, had a little problem with kotor tools but that’s fixed. I plan to have most of the major/ party members done in 2 weeks.

I’m also, playing with a few techniques which could save time on production.
:)

MORE TO COME.......

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 memarik
04-02-2008, 6:37 AM
#67
thats good to hear Logan23 !
have you done some new pics of the partymembers? :D
 Sithspecter
04-02-2008, 9:00 AM
#68
Logan, I beg you not to do a reskin of the Ebon Hawk. It's in both KotOR and TSL, and it's just not fair to change it. If you'd like a different ship, one can be made, but I dearly love the Ebon HAwk in it's current skin.
 logan23
04-02-2008, 12:50 PM
#69
Hey

I know the Ebon Hawk has been in kotor1 and kotor2......
In Revenge of Revan...... The main ship will either be the Ebon Hawk or a ship thats based on the Ebon Hawk.

Nindo' father worked on the original Ebon Hawk back when Davik owned it. So......I'm going to leave up to you guys the fans.......

Should the Ebon Hawk be the main ship again or a ship that’s a copy of it created by Nindo's father's drawings.

Original Ebon Hawk
or
Similar model but new named ship.

Let me know......

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 DarthRevan243
04-02-2008, 1:33 PM
#70
If you're playing K1; If you're playing K2, there's actually 11 party members...if you count Bao-Dur's Remote.

Thats 12 if you count B4-D4. He was a party member for a short space of time but it was about the same as the remotes
 Darth Payne
04-02-2008, 1:50 PM
#71
Hey, if you decide to use a different ship?

Maube Sithspecter would let you use one of the models Quanon sent him, (With Quanons permission of course) at least one of the looked a bit like the Hawk.

Hey, maybe the Ebon Falcon?
 Sithspecter
04-02-2008, 5:53 PM
#72
I vote Ebon Hawk! Plus, there's that mystery of how exactly the Ebon Hawk lands in the hands of Revan, Exile, and new PC... Could be a whole quest just about that. You say that Nindo's father worked on it, wouldn't that be impossible since Taris got bombed out? About Q's models, they aren't totally put together yet, and he hasn't sent them to me. If you did a new ship, you'd have to do a new module, and that would look bad, the cameras go through the walls, and it looks very ugly...
 logan23
04-02-2008, 6:10 PM
#73
sithspecter, I do have two ways to enter the Ebon Hawk as the main ship. It is a matter of which back story do I use. :)

As for Nindo and the destruction of Taris........Nindo's father died in the attack.........

Nindo was already getting involved with the Exchange at a young age. Nindo actually helped his father make improvements to the Ebon Hawk which aided in Davik's criminal activities.

As for how Nindo survived.......the question is one was Nindo even on the planet when the attack happen.....and two if he was on the planet....the Whole population was not killed off. Taris was left in ruins. But the anwser to that question will be in the game.

Let me know how you feel.......

Ebon Hawk.....or.......a copy of the ship with a new name?

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Hawkstrong16
04-02-2008, 8:00 PM
#74
Ebon Hawk! That is one of the best ships!

I shall be keeping my eyes on this project, it looks vary interesting
 DarthVrook
04-03-2008, 12:47 PM
#75
Something like the Harbinger:D:D:D
 memarik
04-03-2008, 4:03 PM
#76
yeah meaby a bigger ship like DarthVrook sayd like the harbinger some kind of jedi diplomatic ship to be used it would bee fantastic :D ! ! !
 Sithspecter
04-03-2008, 6:03 PM
#77
A huge ship would be VERY impractical. You'd have to make completely new modules with the new ship in it, and that would take a vast amount of time to give the ship a ramp, landing legs, etc. Plus, I'd think whatever this jedi's mission is, he's going to want to be discreet. If you have a huge battle cruiser, why not just bomb the whole planet, and then get what you're looking for after everyone's dead?
 Hawkstrong16
04-03-2008, 6:19 PM
#78
A huge ship would be VERY impractical. You'd have to make completely new modules with the new ship in it, and that would take a vast amount of time to give the ship a ramp, landing legs, etc. Plus, I'd think whatever this jedi's mission is, he's going to want to be discreet. If you have a huge battle cruiser, why not just bomb the whole planet, and then get what you're looking for after everyone's dead?

I agree with sithspecter. Big ship is not such a hot idea. Go with the ship everyone knows and loves... The Ebon Hawk
 Joetheeskimo
04-03-2008, 6:28 PM
#79
A huge ship would be VERY impractical. You'd have to make completely new modules with the new ship in it, and that would take a vast amount of time to give the ship a ramp, landing legs, etc. Plus, I'd think whatever this jedi's mission is, he's going to want to be discreet. If you have a huge battle cruiser, why not just bomb the whole planet, and then get what you're looking for after everyone's dead?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression the Sister Hawk was just going to be a re-skinned Ebon Hawk; not an entirely new model.
 logan23
04-03-2008, 6:57 PM
#80
Hey everyone!

First off the Ebon Hawk will make a return.

I have played with a few different ideas and in the end after talking to Divide&Conquer, who is doing the dialogue,.........we came up with the best solution.....

You will start off with a ship that looks like the Ebon Hawk (sister hawk--name will change) which was built by Nindo. He based the design on the Ebon hawk which his father worked on. But........later in the game……. you will end up with the Ebon Hawk, as your main ship again.

There will not be much difference between the two ships from a visual point of view.

You will have to experience the Mod in order to findout how you end up with the Ebon Hawk again :D


Next Topic: Jedi Council.........
should we have another Vandar/Yoda on the council?.......
how many members should there be.....

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Inyri
04-03-2008, 7:00 PM
#81
As far as naming your "sister Hawk" goes, remember that "ebon" means black. A play on words would be an intellectual way to approach this. I'd either go with something that means the same thing (something that means black) or, conversely, go with an opposite (something that means white).
 Master_Crush
04-03-2008, 7:32 PM
#82
I would of liked a new Republic ship.

You can use the harbinger for interior. But I would love to see the SS Normandy (Mass Effect). But I know that's not possible.

But a new Repub ship would be great!
 Construct
04-03-2008, 7:59 PM
#83
About eight on the council and yes, another vandar/yoda/yaddle!!!!
 logan23
04-03-2008, 11:21 PM
#84
Inyri, I like your idea of making it have a meaning behind the name of the ship............i'm sensing maybe another contest....hmmmm :)

Master_Crush, it would be cool, but...it would add months....to the production time.......I want to get this Mod done so that you all can enjoy Kotor: Revenge of Revan :D

JawkJrask, 8 Council members with a Vander like character......i think i can do that........

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Hawkstrong16
04-04-2008, 12:13 AM
#85
Its just not star wars without a Yoda type character :lol:

I agree with Inyri, it should have a meaning...
 logan23
04-06-2008, 1:58 PM
#86
Hey,

Here is a quick snap shot of Cain and Kaila.

http://img20.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k2cainkailaae5.jpg)

This is not the final version 1.0 .....but i wanted to give you guys a quick peak.

MORE IMAGES COMING SOON..............

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Miles Edgeworth
04-06-2008, 2:10 PM
#87
I think the game would look better visually if you didn't use current party members as bases. Also, Kaila's body looks a bit fuzzy, what resolution did you use when it was re-skinned? (I hope I don't sound to picky... :xp: )
 logan23
04-06-2008, 8:28 PM
#88
Hey everyone!

Miles Edgeworth, all feed back is welcome :)

I have other skins created which are not original party members.......
I hope to have those up here very soon :D

Logan

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Sithspecter
04-06-2008, 9:30 PM
#89
I agree. Using TSL party members is a bad idea, if you want to give a new look. The body model isn't bad, just the heads...
 logan23
04-06-2008, 10:09 PM
#90
Hey

After some thinking......I agree with sithspecter and Miles Edgeworth on the idea that I should stay away from using original party members. I will still use Mira's body for Kaila but the head will be changed. Cain will also get a new head.

Thanks for your feed back :)

I hope to have the new characters up in a few days.

Logan
 xrefusex
04-06-2008, 10:12 PM
#91
I thought Cain looked alright. Kaila though, I thought was Mira. Didn't realise she is Kaila.
 logan23
04-08-2008, 7:31 PM
#92
Hey everyone,

I have been playing with some test ideas for the Mod.

A battle over Coruscant......

Here are some images for one of the test ideas........
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k2coruscanttest5op3.jpg)
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k2coruscanttestwc4.jpg)
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k2coruscanttest2zo8.jpg)
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k2coruscanttest4vn1.jpg)
forgive the resolution image of Coruscant....but once I get a better one it will look alot better.

MORE TO COME.......

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 DarthRevan243
04-09-2008, 6:46 AM
#93
As far as naming your "sister Hawk" goes, remember that "ebon" means black. A play on words would be an intellectual way to approach this. I'd either go with something that means the same thing (something that means black) or, conversely, go with an opposite (something that means white).

Hey! What about....The Angel Swan? It's almost the opposite of The Ebon Hawk. Pleeeese include that!
 logan23
04-11-2008, 2:37 PM
#94
Hey everyone,

I was thinking what could the ship be called........
Kaila and Nindo work for the exchange/Hutts as smugglers/criminals/steal cargo, etc, ....

The ships name:
The Raptor

Raptor means:
Latin
Noun
raptor

thief, robber, plunderer

See also
rapere to seize or carry off
raptare to ravage or drag off

Retrieved from "http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/raptor")

MORE TO COME.......
Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Master_Crush
04-11-2008, 4:43 PM
#95
Nice names!

I like Raptor.

And a Raptor is also a dinosaur
 Quanon
04-11-2008, 5:15 PM
#96
Nice names!

I like Raptor.

And a Raptor is also a dinosaur

Or a bird of prey.
 HdVaderII
04-11-2008, 5:50 PM
#97
Sounds good whatever animal you want to make it.
 logan23
04-14-2008, 2:42 PM
#98
Hey everyone!

I wanted to update you on the project.

WE HAVE STARTED THE FIRST MODULE.......

I have made some updates to the website as well.

I have another Contest for all of you.
I want you to create a member of the Jedi Council.

We will have a Yoda type so that slot is taken.

I want you to give a description, male/female/species of your Jedi Council member

PM me your entries.

I will announce the winner at the end of the Month.

MORE TO COME.......
Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 logan23
04-20-2008, 3:07 PM
#99
Hey everyone!

The Tile crawler for Kotor: Revenge of Revan is up!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EBESpJnJk4)

This is a beta, i will have the final with music and all the bells and whistles in a day or two.

MORE TO COME........

Logan
Kotor: Revenge of Revan
http://kotorrevengeofrevan.wetpaint.com/)
 Master_Crush
04-20-2008, 4:04 PM
#100
Nice one Logan.

Its a good story line outline from what I can see.

Good job.

(Hope there will be music and stuff soon)
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