I'm not that concerned. they'll be plenty of other ships to use.
Another indication that EaW will be half-baked, as I have predicted.
The tech line and whatnot should never have stopped at ANH, but regardless, we are getting some absolutely awful ship designs plus a lot of EU stuff, yet an instantly recognisable film unit doesn't make the cut.
Not good enough.
Can we ban this guy who is so negative, and just likes to diss the game? Please there is someone like this on two other forums! Please just ban him!
Please keep the moderating to the moderators. A differing of opinions does not warrant a banning, but continued flaming does. :¬:
He has his right to be negative (in this forum at least). If you do not like what he posts, you dont have to read them.
Can we ban this guy who is so negative, and just likes to diss the game? Please there is someone like this on two other forums! Please just ban him!
The way to go about this is not publically posting in the forums. This is not acceptable behavior. In order to report someone you believe should be banned, you should PM a moderator or simply report the user.
Although as Darth Moeller pointed out, this user was only sharing his opinion and that doesnt warrant a ban.
Jmaster please Calm down. If that is indeed you, if its your brother then.......
The B-wing even by the official Star Wars web-site says it qualifies as a heavy Fighter
Yup. Fighter-bombers are a heavy kind of fighters.
as well no proton bombs
Did anyone mention proton bombs in the first place?
so in no way is it a bomber as well it has proton torpedos and Ion Cannon. As well no Bomber would have an Ion Cannon.
Heard about the Y-Wing? The one-seater has a forward-firing ion cannon, the two-seater has a rotating turret. As far as I know (one of my favourite craft in Galactic Conquest, by the way:p).
And it has ion cannons. Three of them. You can freaking see them in the movies.
You have to remember that the B- and Y-Wing are mostly used in space. As such, the idea of dropping bombs vertically when you have forward-firing, homing torpedoes is simply absurd. But they call them "bombers" due to their heavy fire-power. I think what Rogue Squadron's dev team did was stop their research at the role of the Y-Wing ("bomber") and go "O-o-o-K, it's a bomber, so it must drop bombs!".
It's like the P-38 Lightning was a fighter bomber, but launched HVAR rockets.
It could be loaded with bombs, it was meant to replace the Y-Wings anyway.
Where do people get these ideas from?!
The Y-Wing had torpedoes, so does the B-Wing. Check any early source and stop trusting the horrifically inaccurate Rogue Squadron (which came after the sources that say it's got torpedoes). And you can't equip the B-Wing with bombs.
Errr, X-Wings do have payloads. It can fire both torpedoes and missiles.
At least according to X-Wing Alliance:).
D. E.
JMaster - everyone is allowed an opinion, which is one of the great things about boards like this. If you disagree with my opinion, then go ahead and prove me wrong.
Fosh - uh...the B-52 didn't serve in World War Two...or Korea. Your thinking of the B-17, B-24 or B-29.
As for the B-wing, I'd call her a Strike Fighter. In World War Two terms, im thinking
X-wing = Spitfire
Y-wing = Hurricane
B-wing = Typhoon
The Spitfire was a terrific fighter that could but often didnt carry bombs. The Hurricane was slower and less agile than the Spitfire, but more able to absorb battle damage and more multi-role - primarily as a light attack aircraft and anti-Bomber fighter. The Typhoon however was probably the best light strike fighter of WW2. It was still fairly agile and was a fighter, but its ability to carry large amounts of weapons and accurately deliver them was very valued.
Good analysis and comparison, Windu. :)
I'm Fine with what you think on those terms Windu
and DE my source is not from any rouge squardon info site, it was from the Official Star War website Databank. Being on the website
www.Starwars.com).
"The Y-Wing had torpedoes, so does the B-Wing. Check any early source and stop trusting the horrifically inaccurate Rogue Squadron (which came after the sources that say it's got torpedoes). And you can't equip the B-Wing with bombs."
i'm sure y-wings could be equipped with bombs when needed, though, and to a greater extent than x-wings. Can't you load them with these things called 'space bombs' in x-wing alliance? do they function in the vertical drop sense?
"X-wing = Spitfire
Y-wing = Hurricane
B-wing = Typhoon"
if you're letting an x-wing be a spitfire, i think the hurricane would be too similar in design & characteristics for it to represent a y-wing. The spitfire's in the same class of planes as the hurricane; it's just faster & better. kind of like the e-wing & x-wing.
i think a better a parallel to the y-wing would be the Me-110. I've heard some people talk about the Russian Il-2, as well.
Tantilles - the idea behind my comparison was to use aircraft from the same country to the differences between spacecraft of the same organisation, mainly for simplicity sake. As for the Y-wing, I think the Hurricane is a good example because, like the Y-wing, it was the primary fighter before a better one came along (X-wing/Spitfire). From all of the Star Wars games I've played, the Y-wing is still used as a fighter, but is defeniately less agile than the spitfire, but can take more damage and is more rugged. In terms of comparison, the X-wing and Y-wing fit in well with the Spitfire and Hurricane.
Can't you load them with these things called 'space bombs' in x-wing alliance?
Yup, you can. That proves nothing, though, as earlier games had them fire torpedoes only, and XWA isn't really such an accurate game (it says the interdictor has a squadron or two of TIEs in it, for example, while the damned thing isn't even big enough for ONE fighter).
the y-wing is a multi functional starfighter, i mean, it can act as a limited fighter (was pretty good before tie-fighters came out), a bomber, and a cruisser destroyer/dissabler. so i guess its a cross between the x-wing and b-wing. and who said bombs had to go strait down. in space it could be propelled by a rocket. i so pose any starfighter can carry bombs if its modified to.
i thought of a way to balence y-wings and b-wings in the game. like, be able to make 5 y-wings at once, each shooting proton torps. and be able to make 3 b-wings at once, each shooting 2 torps. so while the b-wing groop can shoot 6 torps at once (y-wing group only 5), it takes less time to shoot all the b-wings down. and have y-wings pertect them self with their ion turret.
hope thats not complicated, and besides, its only an idea.
Shadow - you realise that a bofitted with a rocket engine is a rocket, right? :)
i was thinking more like a rocket propelled grunade
darth windu-
fair enough. i guess if I just figured that the comparison wouldn't be good since y-wings really couldn't hold their own against TIEs, but Hurricanes could against Me-109s. then again, like someone said, y-wings were decent fighters before the introduction of the TIE. I suppose the Hurricane was similarly made outmoded by the introduction of later-model Messerschmits and other fighters.
it says the interdictor has a squadron or two of TIEs in it, for example, while the damned thing isn't even big enough for ONE fighter).
does it really? i recall stackpole's Rogue Squadron novel, among other sources, claiming that the Interdictor could hold 1 squad. Rogue Squadron bumped into the Interdictor Black Asp when practising astro-nav routes. I know Stackpole was actually inspired by the x-wing games, but since this fact has now been established in a novel proper, shouldn't it be considered official?
That is a bit off topic
but in accordance to the B-Wing. As seen in the movies they had used them more of a heavy strike fighter... As well I think I'm beginning to think a bit off subject myself, but what would the stat/specs of the two fighters. Being the B-wing and the Y-wing, this may help end some of the debate if we can find some official specs of both of the fighters that are not modified according to the game and/or a character/hero.
has someone made B-wings yet? or a mod with them? could some please link it here if so? i for one do love the b-wing and would like to have the unit in EaW
B-wings are in Legacy of War
http://legacy.gamemod.net)
i think everything thats in the starwars galaxy should be in this game all ship and all land units.. i mean we are in the sw galaxy!!! would be awesome if they gave us Bwings,Tie interceptors,superstar destroyer,.. and so on!
Eagle is correct. Its classification is a B-wing Heavy Bomber much like the US's B-52 flying fortress during WW2.
Check your history book.
This is B-52
http://www.danshistory.com/b52_1.jpg)
I think that you refered to this airplane :
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/galloway.jpg)
This is B-17.
Anywat B-wing was designed to replace Y-Wing which became obselet with mass production of TIE interecptor and Tie Defender.
Better armor, more powerfull shieleds and better armement compared to Y-wing are the keywords for the B-wing.
By no means it is the fighter and it needs an escort to carry on its task.
Maybe so, but it certainly doesn't fill the same role as the B-17 did.
I'd consider it more like a WWII Dive-bomber then a Heavy Bomber. Official designations cannot really be compared in this case.
when is the legacy mod coming out?
alright, so the legacy mod has b-wings, but its not finished yet? no problem, i just have to wait.
it is about balance. You can only control so many units and so many diffent type of units. You have the cheap Z-95 for early fast game scouting , then the xwing for fighter ops ( better then the TIEs) and Ywings for bombers. What would the Bwing do? It would be redundant and not very "rock paper scissors" balanced. The Ideal was for the empire to have disposable fighters. Thus the come form the star destroyers and you use them up diffent then you would your x and y wings that have to be built. This the empire does not have its super fighters and missile boat fighters .
It is a game and the game has to be balanced so everyone can play and have fun , not just one side.
Just has the reb artillery is a little better then the imp artillery. the imps have a simi counter in the AT-AA. Balance of some form. you just have to find it and use it.
The imp fighters used to counter the bwing would not be non-hyperspace disposable fighers the SD's carry. they would be the advance fighers that would have to be built seperetly and that is not the desposable figher concept I beleve the designers were going for.
IMHO
i would replace my Y-wings with B-wings if i could.
ya im a B-Wing fan and i know there are others out there :)
Can a mod or admin lock this OOOOLLLLD topic?